Pagla Kahin Ka (1970)

Now available with subtitles thanks to Tom and Raja!

Sometimes (well, quite often really, due to my suspect tastes) I see a film which wasn’t a hit and I say WHY, UNIVERSE, WHY? Despite the magical combination of Shammi Kapoor in his prime with Shakti Samanta directing, backup from Helen and Asha Parekh, lovely songs (Shankar Jaikishan) and an emotionally compelling and unusual plot, this movie apparently bombed at the box office and has not—until now!—even been put on a dvd with subtitles. (If you would rather just get to the download and not have to read my drivel, scroll all the way down to the end.)

It is not perfect but I found it deeply engaging and sensitive: it is largely about loss, and I think it is one of Shammi’s best performances.

He plays Sujit, a singer with a troubled and lonely background who grew up in an orphanage. After being hired at the Hotel Copacabana by another musician named Shyam (Prem Chopra), he has forged the first close bonds with people he has ever had. Shyam has become his best friend and roommate, and he has found love with cabaret dancer Jenny (Helen), giving him happiness he never thought possible.

The opening credits roll over a lively tune with Helen dancing (in a glittery striped-only-on-one-leg catsuit), Shammi on sax, and Prem on guitar.

Hotel Copacabana is owned by Max (KN Singh), who is enamored of Jenny himself.

Max is none too pleased that she loves Sujit and neither is her aunt (Praveen Paul), setting the stage rather obviously for the main plot.

There is never really any evidence put forth for why people would think that, except that Sujit has a fondness for tortoises which I personally think is completely sane and understandable. In any case, Jenny doesn’t think he’s mad either and she genuinely loves him. How could she not? He is lively, fun, devastatingly handsome, clearly adores her, and he calls her by that Shammi trademark phrase: “my love, my doll, my pigeon, my cactus flower!”

Melt.

I sense trouble looming ahead when Shyam tells Sujit that he could easily fall for Jenny himself (and it’s obvious that he already has). Sujit’s response is typically bromantic…and the heavy-handed foreshadowing continues.

Jenny worries and Sujit soothes her with “Tum Mujhe Yoon Bhula Na Paaoge.”

I believe that I’ve read someplace that this is Shammi’s favorite song from all of his films, and it is just lovely, especially the lyrics by Hasrat Jaipuri (did I mention that they are subtitled! Ha!).

Sure enough, Sujit’s newfound happiness is about to end—and on New Year’s Eve at that.

After the performance, Shyam announces Sujit and Jenny’s engagement to the crowd. This enrages Max, who gets drunk and insults both Sujit and Jenny. In the ensuing fray Max pulls a gun, and Shyam bashes him on the head with a bottle before he can shoot, killing him.

Up to this point the only clue that Shyam might not be the ideal best friend is that he is Prem Chopra, but now Sujit fails to see Giant Warning Sign Number 1: Shyam is all too happy to flee with Jenny and leave Sujit there to be arrested for the murder of Max in his stead.

They hire a defense attorney by the name of Mehta (Brahm Bhardwaj), who doesn’t appear to understand the concept of self-defense and suggests another road to acquittal.

All agree on this plan of action, and in court Sujit pretends to be crazy while Mehta calls witnesses to attest to his madness. First up is the director of the orphanage where Sujit was raised, who tells the sad story of Sujit losing his mother to cancer at age 6, and then being violently rejected by his father who went mad as a result of her death. (He describes a troubled and sad little boy, not a mad one, but nobody sees the difference.) Then Shyam testifies against him, followed by a reluctant Jenny. Both Shyam and Mehta bring up the self-defense argument but only as an aside, with the insanity plea remaining the focus.

It is really too bad that Sujit at least did not think this plan through.

He fails to see Giant Warning Signs Number 2, 3 and 4, which are that his so-called best friend hired an idiot to defend him, testified against him in court, and would rather see him committed to a mental hospital than go free thanks to a logical and thoughtful defense.

The mental hospital is populated by character actors and comedians, and is a great deal of fun if a little over-the-top wacky sometimes. The first order of business is for the hospital doctors to agree that Sujit is insane and to inform the court of their decision. Sujit has very little trouble convincing most of them that he is indeed mad.

But Dr. Shalu (Asha Parekh) is not so sure. She asks to be given Sujit’s case and her uncle, the hospital superintendent (Badri Prasad), agrees. Sujit becomes acquainted with some of the other inmates; Kumar (Kundan) thinks he is “the biggest star of Indian cinema” and his delusions poke gentle fun at Shammi’s own career.

My own favorite crazies are Gangu Teli (Ram Avtar) and his buffalo (Asit Sen), who lead us into a fabulous song called “Mhaari Bhais Ko Danda.”

It is seriously enchanting. Just look at all these familiar faces!

Each patient has in his own way suffered pain and loss, and some of their back stories are woven in gently around the loony shenanigans.

Meanwhile, Shyam is putting his own treacherous plan in motion. He gives Jenny a letter Sujit had written him in which he talks about Shalu, and it is clear that he is also intercepting Sujit’s letters to Jenny. She desperately wants to see Sujit, but he reminds her that Mehta has told them not to visit. Poor, poor Jenny!

Sujit quickly wins over all the hospital patients and staff with his charm, but Shalu has been observing him and she is convinced that he is faking. When she confronts him, he acknowledges that she’s right and then tells her what he should have told the court to begin with. He explains that Max had threatened his beloved Jenny, and Shalu is touched by his obvious devotion to her. After he tells her his sad life history, she is so moved that she gets the hospital committee to agree to Sujit’s release, free and clear.

She also falls in love with him, although she keeps it to herself.

But oh noooooooooo!

Shyam, frustrated by Jenny’s continued fidelity to Sujit, shows his true colors and rapes her.

When Sujit is released and makes his way home, it is to discover that everybody is celebrating Shyam and Jenny’s wedding at the Hotel Copacabana. Everybody except Jenny, that is. She is sad, as a woman who marries her rapist should be. Even Madhumati’s jaunty feathered headdress cannot cheer her.

This betrayal at the hands of his best friend and his one true love now really does send Sujit over the edge into madness although he does his best to be magnanimous. He is sent back to the mental hospital and Shalu, who must now (ethics be darned!) find a way to cure the man she loves.

Can she help him? Or has Sujit finally snapped for good, his mind gone along with his hopes?

Much of Pagla Kahin Ka is profoundly sad, possibly the reason it didn’t succeed. But it also has a lot to say about the ways in which people cope with loss and about where madness really lies. There are definite flaws: the medical aspects are filmi (although to be fair there was so much less information in 1970 about treating mental illness in general than there is now), and the whole court case/trial is ridiculous. (Updated to add: and as people have pointed out in the comments below, the callous dismissal of Helen’s character is awful!). But the story and the characters resonated enormously for me. Shammi is wonderful especially in the quieter moments; he hams it up a little playing a lunatic when he is faking it, but probably that’s what someone faking insanity would do. Sujit is a fully realized character with a vulnerability that is almost tangible. His chemistry with Asha is as usual superb, and the supporting performances weave together a whole that moved me immensely.

I watched this without subtitles and liked it a lot, but I knew that I really needed them to fully appreciate it. I owe an enormous debt to Raja for his translation, and to Tom for painstakingly putting the video and subtitles together with his magic and making it available for everyone. You can download it here (be sure to read the instruction file, it is helpful and makes the process very easy) and please take the time to let them know how much we appreciate their efforts—it is a lot of work, and they do it because they love this cinema too. Wah! Wah! Productions actually lives!

86 Comments to “Pagla Kahin Ka (1970)”

  1. Shammi and Asha Parekh — the dream couple!; I’m sold!

  2. Ever since I read about your love for Helen and Shammi, I knew THIS was the movie you were meant to see. Its not the greatest film, but it is the only one that provides Helen with such a meaty role.

    Tom and Raja are Great! Wah Wah!

    • I’ve been wanting to see it with subtitles for a LONG time…I knew that I was getting the gist of the plot, but nothing much else. There is a lot in this to be found I think, definitely will have to watch it again sometime. Tom and Raja are Great indeed :)

  3. This movie has one of my favourite songs, Tum mujhe yun (the Rafi version). There was this childhood summer when I watched one or more Shammi Kapoor videos every day.

    There are echoes of the mental hospital situation from Khamoshi, which is considered a classic (Waheeda, Dharmendra and Rajesh Khanna), but not having actually watched that one, I can’t say how much was “inspired”. I’ve often thought many Shammi movies had themes from higher-brow films translated for his Yahoo self.

    • It is a lovely song; I liked both the male and female versions of it. All the songs are nice, and the cabaret numbers are FAB. And Shammi was a very subdued version of his Yahoo self :D

  4. Memsaab, being aware of your fondness of the lead couple, I will only say that this movie lacks the spunk of TEESRI MANZIL, despite having nearly all the stars of that movie. Perhaps it is my preference for thrillers, suspenses and the supernatural cult films that is responsible for this opinion. I think at the point SK actually went insane, the plot went a little weak.
    For example, the sub-plot of the old man longing to meet his ‘deceased’ daughter (for a generation, perhaps), who falls off the stairs and dies. A needless tragedy and a more needless song by SK, bringing Tragedy OTT. At this point, a twist would have been more welcome, like meeting of Sujit and his father in the hospital, and father-son relationship blossoming. Or the increased bonding of SK with the other inmates.
    Another disappointment of mine is that this being the only film where SK and Helen share a really romantic relationship, their chemistry was blazing hot: and then they are so cruelly separated and /* SPOILER ALERT*/ in the end, it is said that she never actually loved SK./* SPOILER END*/ I protest vehemently at her cruel fate!
    But the songs were great, except the tragic one I mentioned above; I personally liked the ” TUM MUJHE YUN..”, (in the male voice) best. Asha also looks dazzling, and I liked the part in which she pretends to be the love-interest of one of the other inmates in the hospital, just to prevent him from losing his urge to live.
    LOL, Memsaab, and waiting for your next review.

    • It isn’t as good as Teesri Manzil but it’s completely different, anyway. Much darker. And I liked the sub-plots…maybe the sorrow underlying the inmates’ madness touched me more because I am so sorrowful these days. And I don’t think anyone watching could think that Jenny didn’t really love Sujit! Although I also didn’t think that her chemistry with Shammi was anything that great—especially not compared to Asha’s chemistry with him.

      It would have been interesting indeed had Sujit’s father been there! Someone needs to make it over! :)

  5. First of all, ,memsaab, you don’t owe me a debt of any sort. :-) I did the subtitling because I wanted to. As I”ve said before, I really admire the fact that you (and other non-Hindi speakers like you) have so much love for Hindi cinema. That alone is enough for me to subtitle movies like PKK (which SO deserves to have already been available with subs). And if you DO owe me a debt, it certainly gets cancelled out with all the reviews that you come up with here. Each one of them gives me great reading pleasure – so see it as your “good karma” coming back to you. :-)

    Coming to PKK, I absolutely loved this movie. I think it is a bit unfair to compare it with Teesri Manzil, even if many of the characters are the same. They are totally different types of movies. One is a thriller, the other in the “drama” genre. Not comparable. Although PKK has its flaws (you’ve mentioned some of them), I find it a touching story and pretty humane. I’ve always been used to Shammi, the superhero – in this he comes across as vulnerable, hurt, seeking love and empathy. And puts in a fabulous performance IMO. Much more restrained than in many of his better-known movies. Asha is lovely too – and their chemistry is, as usual, superb. I really felt for Helen too – in fact, the Helen-Shammi love for each other came across very strongly in the first half of the movie.

    The movie may not have become a hit because maybe the Indian public did not want to see Shammi in this type of role, in a mental institution and all. At least that’s what I remember Asha saying in an interview when asked about why she felt PKK had not been a success at the box-office.

    I’ve seen many Shammi movies (not as many as you, of course :-) ) but somehow PKK will be special for me. Not just because I did some subtitling for it :-) but because I think it is one of Shammi’s best and deserves more credit. It also deserves to be seen more. Hopefully, with a subbed version now made available by Tom/you for download, some more Shammi fans will be able to enjoy it here.

    • Poor, poor Helen. Women should NOT have to marry the men who rape them! Arghhh! But I think the word humane is perfect for this movie, there is something very empathic and compassionate about it. So many small moments, like when Gangu Teli sells his “buffalo” to Shammi for 900 Rs and then immediately wishes he hadn’t and wants his buffalo back. Hilarious but poignant too. I liked it very much :)

    • Thank you so so much for providing the subtitles. I’m from Guyana and I don’t speak any Hindi and I love old Hindi movies. Please keep up the great work. Indebted to you!!!!

  6. It would be a great day for India, esp. our women, once judges start following your opinion, Madam. This movie was made in 60s, but even in the new millennium, a movie was made (involving a beauty Queen) where she was raped, the rapist made a great show of repentance, arrived at her house with his lawyer, and claimed he would marry her. The parents seemed to have grown wings, and they whole-heartedly agreed to the proposal and the rascal also secured the support of the whole neighborhood. It was left to the hero to bash up the rascal, and talk some sense into them. I totally support Asha who chastised Helen for not murdering PC, and then committing suicide, as a last resort.
    As for remaking PKK, I doubt anybody would be able to match the performance of Asha and PC, even if someone manages to copy SK histrionics and comedy in the asylum.

    • I am not on board with the whole “you should commit suicide” thing either, although I fully agree that Helen should have killed Prem. Maybe then she would have ended up in the asylum with Sujit! This film could have gone so many ways!!!!

  7. I do think SK went a little over the top with his portrayal of a lunatic but I suppose it can be forgiven! After all the film is REALLY different from his usual ones which are so chirpy. I think the idea behind the film and the way it has been made is particularly courageous, esp when the lead is SK who people are not used to seeing sad and crying ALL THE TIME. Incidentally, I saw the film just yesterday on TV :)
    Great writing!

  8. Much thanks to all involved in making yet another movie available to us with subtitles.

    You have no idea how much appreciated all your efforts are. I am looking forward to watching this one, especially after reading the review.

    Greta, none of what you write is EVER drivel. Your reviews are honest and well-balanced. You never shy away from the flaws of a film in favor of the good. Your work is always well-written and I finish reading wanting to watch all the films – even the bad ones. :)

    Thanks again to Tom & Raja! Those of us who do not speak Hindi owe you a great debt. I, for one, have no talent for languages (to my constant regret) and truly envy and admire those who do and I thank you for sharing that talent with us here.

  9. While I do like “Pagla Kahin Ka”, I can’t embrace it wholeheartedly. For a movie that demonstrates a welcome sensitivity and empathy for the mentally ill and suggests that being “sane” may be overrated, it’s callousness towards Helen’s character and her predicament is jarring. Asha’s suggestion that Helen should have killed herself rather than “betray” Shammi {because obviously he was the only one who mattered, what was best for Helen was irrelevant! :-} especially grated since Asha’s character’s name was Shalini! :-)

    • Yes, Helen was extremely poorly treated in this…maybe I am getting used to it :( It bothered me, but not to the exclusion of the stuff I liked. Maybe it helps that my name isn’t Shalini :) I was also pleased that Jenny didn’t worship her husband just because she was his wife afterwards either, but remained pretty defiant about NOT loving him.

  10. Ditto @ Suzanne. Since my new-found addiction to Spanish films will suffer muchly sin subtitles, I’m able to get the gravitas of all this gratitude going out to Raja and Tom.

    And like you, Greta, I too have a soft-spot for cinematic showcasing of the psychiatric. I can easily buy into the handling of dark themes and issues in a humorous fashion (like how you and your mom kept your humor intact, difficult as that must have been, when dealing with your dad’s descent into dementia; like how my (now-deceased) dad kept his cool in the face of my mom’s persistent battle with mental health problems… how he’d laughed and joked and tried his darndest to give his kids a normal life, even while he was away, for weeks on end sometimes, tending to mom during her early psychotic episodes that led to extensive hospitalization, even electrotherapy… you know, those difficult times during which all your relatives “suddenly” desert you?).

    BTW there’s a really cool Kamal comedy in Tamil, called Tenali, where some truly horrible stuff is brushed aside with a huge stroke of humor, right at the film’s outset. (Again, that was an out-and-out slapstick and hardly ever melodramatic, unlike this one, but a case in point nonetheless for mining the funny in psychiatry).

    Anyway, I’m eager to catch this for Copacabana now, if for nothing else. :)

    PS: Followed the Wah Wah productions link thru to your Pyaar Kiye Ja post and Beth’s digging up of its precursor, Kathalikka Neramillai…. that film has a million of my childhood memories tied to it!!

    • Pyar Kiye Jaa is a great childhood memory to have :) Do watch this and let me know what you think of it. I think some of it really resonated for me because of Dad’s dementia, and also because I have lost both him and Gemma recently…Gemma especially (because she was constantly there with me) has left a big gaping lonely hole behind :(

      • Oh memsaab, Gemma’s gone? It’s a sad sad feeling, finding out. The thought of you not having her any more for company, for comfort, for hugging…makes me sad. I just now looked her up from your March 7 post (March is the month that I’m generally off the grid coz that’s when life throws me the curve-ball it’s been holding back the whole year, politely challenging me to reassess my priorities. I need that.). I stared for several seconds at those beautiful beady eyes full of warmth and softness….so sorry for your irreplaceable loss, Greta. To me (and maybe to some others who only “met” her sporadically, virtually), Gemma always came across as your affectionate alter ego…the quieter side of gregarious Greta if you will. :)

        I knew about your dad.. but had no clue Gemma was no more. It’s a different kind of loss…this loss of a constant companion. And somehow, it hurts more. No one knows why.

        • We were a team, for sure…and it hurts a lot still. But I’ll get through it with help and love from my friends, including everyone here :) Thanks.

  11. Thanks memsaab for the post. And of course, a very special thank you to Tom and Raja for all their hard work in creating this DVD. I’m really looking forward to watching this :)

  12. Thanks memsaab and Tom for enabling us to download this movie. A big thanks to Raja too for his effort in sub titling (although I don’t need sub titles myself). Memsaab, I want to see the movie before I read your review and other comments – will come back later.

    • You can turn the subtitles off with a remote (not through the menu though)…Tom also worked his magic on erasing the stupid logos that are omnipresent and the scrolling text along the bottom during the songs :D

  13. “Up to this point the only clue that Shyam might not be the ideal best friend is that he is Prem Chopra”

    :)

    Thank you for this review Memsaab. It is a treat, as always.

  14. I remember reading somewhere that post Aradhana (1969), demand for every single hero with the exception of Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand and Dharmendra dwindled to almost zero. ‘Pagla Kahin Ka’ (1970) might have flopped at this very time and hence I don’t know if Shammi was THE Superstar that year.

    Asha Parekh was still the blue eyed girl who was considered lucky to so many heroes of her time.

    • No, I think Shammi was himself aware that his “hero” days were about done :) But he was great in this, and still had a very long career ahead!

    • once rajesh khanna came the only actor to withstand a fall was dev anand with hits banarasi babu, jhonny mera naam, warrant,amir garib,Haré Raama Haré Krishna ,Tere mere sapne.

      such was the impact of rajesh khanna, that each actor gave flops in this period…..and dharmendra’s film with hema malini were alone guaranteed hits in this period.
      not even dilip kumar was in demand as his last film as a hero which was a box office hit was aadmi in 1968.

      just type in google “highest grossing movies of 1970”..u can see a list in imdb.

      • @Shriikant – Dharmendra did have hits like Aaya Sawan Jhoom Ke, Pyar Hi Pyar (both 1969) Kab Kyon Aur Kahan (1970), Mera Gaon Mera Desh (1971) all of which were NOT opposite Hema Malini. Of course, the other movies with her did prove to be hits post 1970. So he was in the reckoning with or without Hema.

  15. You posted two of our favorite actress Asha Parekh’s best movies within a short time. You must have had a great time watching her.

    • I always do!!!!! Love her.

      • Asha has said this is one of her personal favorite movies, and I can see why. Amidst the chaos of the mental asylum, her character is the only one that is strong, compassionate, and loving. Soon after this film, the director Shakti Samanta repeated her in Kati Patang (1970), which won her the Filmfare Best Actress Award.

  16. Back here after along time.Was away and am also suffering from an injury, so compelled to type with my left hand. In short time I was away, I find that I have come back to a revamped Memsaabstory, looks great but was also sorry to read about Gemma. Well, all the best.

    • Hi Shilpi, Am sorry about your injury—hope you are recovering! I couldn’t type with my left hand I don’t think. It is practically useless, I am so very right-handed :) I am glad you like the new look and thanks for your sympathy about Gemma. I miss her.

  17. It is interesting to note that movies that dealt with topics that were off the beaten track suffered at the box office those days. It shows that the movie watchers of those days were quite immature. Personally I can vouch for my immaturity. Of course, I have the excuse that I was a pre teen those days. :)

    I know this movie because of its wonderful songs and also for the fact that this movie (and a few others) spelled the end of Shammi Kapoor’s career as a hero. From your review, it appears that this movie was in fact one of the better movies he acted in. But then ordinary movie watchers, who were used to watching Shammi Kapoor as a romantic hero, may have felt letdown when they saw Shammi Kapoor playing a different and non glamorous role. This happened with others too, viz Amitabh Bachchan playing a vulnerable ordinary man in “Main Azaad Hoon” was rejected by the audience in mid 1990s.

    It is a great and sensitive review. Like what has been mentioned by a few others, I too feel like watching movies after reading your reviews. Moreover, I also feel like downloading the movie for the subtitle, even though I do not need it. Kudos to Tom and Dan. You, alonhwith Greata re doing a yeoman’s service for the cause of Old Hindi movies, especially for their non Hindi speaking international audience. May your tribe increase and multiply.

    • You make me laugh, Atul :D Probably as a pre-teen you would not have cared for this, although you might like it a lot now! I think you should download and watch it :) The songs are very lovely indeed.

  18. Nice review as always Memsaab. I remember reading an interview of Asha Parekh somewhere (I could be mistaken) rueing the fact that his movie was not as successful as some of her other films possibly because Shammi was cast against type, though it remains one of her favorites.
    It is also interesting to note that though this was a post-Aradhana Shakti Samanta film, the hero was somebody other than Rajesh Khanna and the music director was not a Burman. Maybe it was planned after An Evening in Paris but got released late.

    • I have read that too :)

    • The new year’s party in the movie refers to 1968, hinting that this could have been made in 1967-68. So made before Aradhana but released only in 1970.

      • Shammi’s appearance varied from scene to scene…I think it probably took a while to make this film. Good catch on the New Year’s Eve party—I missed that completely!

        • Thanks Raja and Memsaab. Many film directors in the past would complain that films with stars in them would take longer to complete due to various issues including date problems sometimes leading them to do a quick film in between. Don’t know if that was the case here.

  19. memsaab can u tell y sometimes. thogh i write a comment here, it gets disaapeared the next day…
    yesterday i wrote a comment citing the films which became hits in 1970 and why pagal kahin ka flopped due to 5 rajesh khanna films and jhonny mera naam dominating box office in top 10.

    can you provide links for other films too about which u have written in this blog…the way u gave link in mediafire for pagal kahin ka…it would be great if u could

    • Shrikant, nobody wants to read through long lists of films here. It clutters up the comments needlessly. And I don’t supply movies, I only write about them, unless it is a special case like here where subtitles have been added where they are otherwise unavailable.

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  21. Tom and Raja are heroes. I think we should become a band of restoration experts. I wouldn’t mind contributing my two paise (in effort!) even though I am a lazy bum.

    This was not the Shammi people were used to seeing, and couldn’t stomach it. Yes, that Helen turnabout was jarring and I think also effectively helped to scuttle the film. Screenwriters (as can be seen on Hindi soaps on Star TV) conveniently make character switch motivations to suit the whims of producer, star, wishful endings.

    A Suggestion: Please give us your take on 7 Khoon Maaf. I would love to read your feminist take on it!

  22. Guys and gals, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Let Memsaab move on to her next review, please; there are still a dozen Shammi and a score of Asha movies to watch and comment on.
    Memsaab, I too make a suggestion- let it be RAJKUMAR or ADBK or ASJK(last two are of Asha). Please do not move onto current BOLLY so soon(no offense, Salim) as 50s-early 80s cinema is a wide enough span.

    • i keep tellling memsaab that there is no need to touch the period post 1988 as many of the films of the khans are so bad but they are very smartly not exposed.
      i hae sent some of the mists like worst films of aamir, srk etc to imdb too.

      the films from 1950-1985 especially the classics from 1965-1985 with
      Rajesh Khanna, Shahshi,Dharam, Jeetu, Sanjeev…they were simply the best actors as so many films of thier released in short period and plus they were so busy in their peak period 1965-1985 ….that there is no dearth of films about which v need to discuss about.
      all of them have a minimum of 80 classics/80-100 superhits @ box office good films to their credit.

      memsaab should definitely post about these movies?( with great cast , story, fun , non vulgar topics and music)

    • No offense taken TG. I am myself an old film fan (my collection has under 10% new films). But 7 Khoon Maaf has evoked such divergent reactions that I would love to have Memsaab’s view on it.

      • I’m going to watch what I want to watch no matter what anybody says anyway!!!! :)

        • Great to have you back. I too had been away at the beach for some time OUT with family. Nothing like a change of scenery.

          One thing I noticed in the hall where I had gone to see 7 Khoon Maaf – not many were accompanied by their wives (myself included)! I guess males don’t want their better half getting any ideas! Anyway even if you don’t want to blog it here, if you do happen to see it some time do drop me your comments at salim.macmet at gmail.com as I have great respect for your views (though we have to agree to disagree some times!).

  23. Great post as usual Memsaab! BTW, I nominated you for a Stylish Blogger Award: http://bit.ly/epgnCM :-)

    Amaluu

  24. I keep visiting your blog from time to time…not very consistent but never forgetting that there is such a delightful treasure trove here…I’m sure you must be as awesome a person irl as your writing…wishing you happiness :)

  25. Great movie…I guess the other reason why Shammi’s career faded looks like his weight kinda took a turn for the plump. Plus I love S-J’s music. Very good here.

    • Well, he was getting older—he was in his late thirties by this time. It’s very hard NOT to get plump at that age! Yes, lovely music in this. I really liked it.

  26. Greta: As we have not heard from you for so long ………..

  27. Memsaab, I think there is something wrong in this post; the latest comments of Shrikant and Salim are not visible here, although they have been recorded in my email ID. This happened in your previous review too.
    And Memsaab, please move on to a new movie now; we are all waiting with baited breath for a hook to cling to.

  28. She’ll be back shortly. She’s away at the moment.

  29. I delete comments that are just long lists of films because it is annoying for people (eg me) to have to scroll past them. Otherwise, have no idea why comments may have disappeared. And I have been away as Tom said, even bloggers need vacations now and then!

  30. In that case, Memsaab, I suggest you start the Twitter; not a bad alternative. As for us your messages, be short or long, are refreshing enough, so we do not need vacations, thus saving us a lot of bucks and time. Feeling refreshed already, as if I had drunk a large tetra pack of MANGO FROOTY. Now famished for a plate of your delicious reviews.

  31. Nice to see you back. It was unannounced, and that is always a bit unsettling for regulars like me.

    • I’m sorry! I just needed to get away, so went off to see my dear friend Greg who lives in Panama. Lovely country, will write up a brief trip summary soon with pictures (of dogs, naturally)…

  32. Saw this site and thought of you..wondered if you know about it…neat list that’s all

    http://anandvishnu.blogspot.com/2011/05/best-of-shammi-kapoor.html

    Have been trying to find Pagla Kahin Ka for a while..thanks for tracking it down.

  33. A friend of mine pointed me to your site because I have recently started a blog about old Hindi movies. (http://hindimoviesgoldenera.blogspot.com/). And this is the first time I read your “story”. :-) Really liked the way you have presented it.

    Shammi Kapoor is my all time favorite actor. I am willing to watch ANY movie, if he is in it. And yes, SK & asha Parekh were wonderful together – right from their first movie together – “Dil Deke Dekho”.

    “Pagla Kain ka”, is like you have said, quite different from his usual movies… darker.. And I thought he was very good. And I love the song “Tum mujhe yun Bhula na paoge”…

    But like others have said, I really didn’t like the way Helen’s character was treated.

  34. LOL – Know what you mean about Jeevan Jyoti – The movie is really bad. But I liked him anyways… :-)I I recently watched Basant – from 1960 – SK and Nutan. And have written on my blog about that.

    BTW – hope it would be ok to put a link for your blog on my blog….

  35. I don’t like this movie mainly because when Helen gets pushed off the cliff at the end, no one seems to care and Shammi Kapoor looks the least worried. I have to agree with others, her character was treated poorly in this movie.

  36. Please I need to know how to get this film pagla kahin ka DVD . If any one knows any DVD web site name who has it would please let me know thanks

    • Hello every one
      I had requested in the past on how to obtain the movie Pagla Kahin ka with English subtitle . I got a link that I was told that you can down load the movie from that link. Obviously that link in no longer there and I could not down load it . Please if Any body has it and can make me a copy of it and I will pay for that. My email is adnanrxrph@yahoo.com
      Thanks

      • The link does work. In fact, two links work, both the one on the Edu Productions page that memsaab gave you before in response to your request, as well as the one given at the end of her review. What’s the problem? Can you not see the files once you get into MediaFire?

        • Thanks for replying last time . I tried that pagla kahin ka link , I was able to down load it but I couldn’t unzipped In order to be able to burn it on DVD . I purchased membership from mediafire.com to be able to download , after that we trying to burn it , it said what I was trying to burn was corrupt and try it again , it is not working , can u sell me a copy of it instead on repeatind downloading the movie and getting frustrated it . I will pay u the price u think is reasonable . This movie is one of my favorite and I have been waiting to watch it for years as you know it is not available officially on DVD yet . Thank you very much

          Adnan
          Adnanrxrph@yahoo.com

  37. Hi, just saw your awesome blog.Helen and Shammi Kapoor made a fabulous jodi. Ashiq hoon main….is my favorite song.Thanks for posting.

  38. I loved the scene between Kundan and shammi kapoor. It was hilarious. An OK film and Shammi Kapoor is the saving grace of it.

    • I totally agree 100% that Pagla Kahin Ka should have been a super hit , having great story , beautiful songs, beautiful music in addition the magical combination of Shammi Kapoor . Asha Parekh , and Helen which all three made a super hit movie of Tessri Manzil , I think Pagla kahin Ka is as good as Tessri Manzil. I saw Pagla Kahin Ka in Iraq in early 1970″s and the movie was playing for years until late 1970’s but also was being played every now and then in the 1980’s and thereafter . And I would not be surprised if still 2nd or 3rd class theatres are playing as the theatre used to be always solid full . In Iraq this movie had enjoyed the status of being compared to major hits like Sangam, Professor , Do Badan , Mother India ,Mughal A Zam and other hit movies . I still do not get it why was not considered as hit on India ? !!!!
      Adnan

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